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(#X!      H1` hp x (#(#H0  0` (#(#  a) ` Whatwasnecessarilyimmoralinthecaseof_Mt_.18:1518?Wouldthat , J havetobesomethingimmoral? ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  _b_) ` Isnotworking immoral?2Th.3:615\ z` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  c) ` Iscovetous immoral?1Co.5:11 ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  d) ` Isfalseteachingnecessarily immoral?_Rom_.16:17 ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  e) ` Canamanbe factiouswithoutbeing immoral?_Tit_.3:10,11:X ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  f) ` Immoralityisjustoneofthethingsthatamanmaypersistinthatwould   makehimasubjectofchurchdiscipline. ` (#` (#     $ X,` X$       H44` hp x (#XH      0   2)  Doesntthesinapersonisguiltyofhavetobeofsuchthatitisbringingopen  reproachuponthechurchbothfromwithinandwithout? md(#(# K1` hp x (#, XK0  Anunstatedphilosophy8? Aslongasitisnotbringingreproachonthechurch,ignoringitisthebestwaytodealwithit8? md (#(#       $ X,` X$      ! (#X!      H1` hp x (#(#H0  0` (#(#  a) ` Whatabout_Mt_.18?Whywouldtherebeaneedforwitnessestoconfirmit  andto tellittothechurchifitwasopenandevident? ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  _b_) ` Couldamanbe covetous(1Co.5:11)withoutbringingpublicreproach   uponthechurch?Thesameistruewithseveralofthesesinsifthepersonkeptitsecret.Hemightbeafornicatorandonlyafewknowit.Wouldhebeasubjectofdisciplineifherefusedtorepent? ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  c) ` PaulreprovedthechurchatCorinthbecausetheyhadletthisconductgo  onwithoutdoinganythingaboutit,1Co.5:1,2.Itwasnotthatitwasnow commonlyreported(KJV)thatwasthereasontheyshouldnowact.Thefornicatorshouldhavealreadybeen removedfromtheirmidst. ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  d) ` Onepurposeofdisciplineistosavethesoulofthesinner,1Co.5:5,_Mt_. ! 18:11,15.Thesoulmaybeinjeopardybeforethesinreachesthemagnitudeofpublicreproach. ` (#` (#     $ X,` X$       H44` hp x (#XH      0   3)  Doesnt2Th.3mentionthatthesepeoplewere busybodies,andtherefore $! weonlywithdrawfromthosewhoare causingtroubleinthechurch? md%" (#(# K1` hp x (#, XK0  E.g., Itsbetweenthem,orbetweenhimandtheLord;weoughtnotgetinvolvedunlessitinvolvesus(i.e.unlessweareforcedtobeinvolved). md (#(#      $ X,` X$      ! (#X!      H1` hp x (#(#H0  0` (#(#  a) ` Whatismeantby causingtrouble?)$%#` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  0` ` (#` (#_i_)0 ` (#` (#Activelystirringunrest?Activelyincitingdivision?Ifamandecides P*n&$ toworshipidolsinhishome,byhimself,andagreesnottoteach 6+T'% hisviewsorevenspeakofthemtoothers,wouldhebeasubjectforpunitivediscipline?1Co.5:11.Applythesametodrunkenness,sexualimmorality,etc.-*( (# (# P  j   0  0` (#(#0 ` (#` (# ` ii) Ifabrotherliesagainstanotherbrother,whoshouldwediscipline  "theliar,orthebrotherwho causedtroublebybringingittothechurch(_Mt_.18:1518)?  (# (# 0  0` (#(#  _b_) ` Beinga busybodymaycertainly causetroubleinthechurch.However,  anysinpersistedinandignored causestrouble:` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#0 ` (#` (# ` _i_) Asoulwillbelosteternally.H (# (# 0  0` (#(#  0` ` (#` (#ii) Othersmaybeinfluencedtofollowthebadexample. ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  0` ` (#` (#iii) Faithfulpeoplemaybecomediscouragedbythesinofthe `  unrepentant. ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  0` ` (#` (#iv) Thechurchbecomesguiltyfornotdoingitsduty,1Co.5;Rev.   2:1416,20. ` (#` (# H.` hp x (#,` XH0  Thustheneedtodefine causingtrouble.Inonesenseitisnotthecriterionfor <  punitivediscipline.Inanothersense,itistrueofallsintobepunishedbythe $  church. (#(# E1` hp x (#XE0  0` (#(#  c) ` Wasthefactthatthenonworkersin_Thessalonica_Ԁwere busybodies V materialtothecommandtowithdrawfromthem?Consider:<` (#` (# K14 hp x (#,` XK  0 4 0` 4(#4(# 4 _i_) ` Iftheyrefusedtowork,butmindedtheirownbusiness,wouldtheyhave   been leadinganunrulylife(walkingdisorderlyKJV)andnotaccordingtothetraditionwhichtheyreceivedfromtheapostles(v.6)? ` (#` (# 0  04(#(#0` 4(#4(# 4 ii) ` Iftheyquitbeingbusybodies,butyetrefusedtowork,wouldtheybe "  obeyingourinstructioninthisletter(v.14)?Ifyouransweris no,weretheytobe  withdrawnfrom, noted,and admonished?(vv.6,14,15) ` (#` (# 0  04(#(#  044(#4(#iii) ` Note:Becomingabusybodywasevidentlynotunnaturalbehaviorfor 8 someonenotworkingandidle(remembertheyhadnocomputersorTVs!).Compare1Tim.5:13. 4(#4(# Q1` hp x (#4 XQ0  0` (#(#  d) ` Whenpeopleinthechurchareallowedtosinwillfullywithoutcensure,it N cancausemoretroublethanwefirstrealize. ` (#` (# ?    $ X,` X$       H44` hp x (#XH      0   4)  Howcanyouwithdrawfromsomeonewhohasalreadywithdrawnhimself ~  fromyou? j!(#(#  _)    $ X, X$      ! (#X!      H1` hp x (#(#H0  0` (#(#  a) ` Firstletusrealizethatwemayrefusefellowshipwithapersoninone "6 area,whilecontinuingtoassociatewiththeminanother.Forexample,youmighthavenospiritualfellowshipwithamanintheworld,yetassociate $! withhiminsocialactivities.Compare2_Cor_.6:147:1;1_Cor_.5:11. n%!  Likewisewiththeimpenitentbrother... ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  _b_) ` Certainly,ifamanhaswithdrawnhimselfcompletely(spirituallyand '$" socially),thereremainsnorelationshiptosever.However,whatsometimeshappensisthatthesinnerwithdrawshimselfspiritually(not n)%$ attendassemblies,etc.),butcontinuestohavesocialassociationwiththe V*&% membersofthechurch(eatingtogether,bowlingtogether,etc.).Thislatterassociationcanandshouldbeseveredforthe withdrawaltobe $,(' complete. -)(` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  c) ` Evenwhentotalseveranceofrelationshiphastakenplace,admonishing  isstillinorder,2Th.3:15. ` (#` (# *    $ X,` X$       H44` hp x (#XH      0   5)  WHENdoyouwithdrawfromaman? 0(#(#  1chur    $ X, X$      ! (#X!      H1` hp x (#(#H0  0` (#(#  a) ` First,guiltmustbeestablished.` (#` (#   0 ` 0 ` (#` (# ` _i_) In_Mt_.18:16,theLorddirectedthattwoorthreewitnessesbe N securedinorderthat everyfactmaybeconfirmed.Compare_Dt_.17:27(Notethatthoroughinquirymaybenecessary.);19:1521;_Jn_.8:17.  (# (# 0  0` (#(#0 ` (#` (# ` ii) Insomecases,theguiltisobvioustoall,ortoanumberofpeople. J  1Co.5:1.Compare_Lev_.24:1016;Num.15:3236;25:19.  (# (# 0  0` (#(#  0` ` (#` (#iii) Oneisnottobedisciplinedonthebasisof gossiporassumption. z  Note1Tim.5:1920. ` (#` (# K1` hp x (#,` XK0  0` (#(#  _b_) ` Second,impenitenceshouldbeevident.& ` (#` (#   0 ` 0 ` (#` (# ` _i_) In_Mt_.18,themantobedisciplinedhad refusedtolistentohis p  brother,thewitnesses,andfinally,thechurch.In_Thessalonica_,thenonworkerstobewithdrawnfromwerethosewhowould notobeyourinstructioninthisletter,2Th.3:14.ThefactiousmanTituswasto rejectrefusedtwo warningsand ispervertedandissinning,beingselfcondemned,3:11.Punitivedisciplineisnotfortheweak,butfortheimpenitent.  (# (# 0  0` (#(#0 ` (#` (# ` ii) Notethepresenttenseverbs: (# (# K14` hp x (#,` XK0  0(#(#0` (#(#  0` ` (#` (#0 ` (#` (#(1)   has hisfatherswife1Co.5:1h (# (# 0  0(#(#0` (#(#  0` ` (#` (#0 ` (#` (#(2)   be animmoralperson1Co.5:11< (# (# 0  0(#(#0` (#(#  0` ` (#` (#0 ` (#` (#(3)   leads anunrulylife2Th3:6(  _walketh_ disorderlyKJV) (# (# 0  0(#(#0` (#(#0 ` (#` (#0 (# (# (4)   leading anundisciplinedlife(  walk 8disorderlyKJV)2 X Th.3:11 (#(# 0  0(#(#0` (#(#0 ` (#` (#0 (# (# (5)   issinning,being selfcondemned_Tit_.3:11 (#(# 0  0(#(#0` (#(#0 ` (#` (#0 (# (# (6)  Continuedaction,orastateof_incompletion_,isdenotedby b! thepresenttense,"thiskindofactioniscalleddurativeor H" linear.Theactionoftheverbisshowninprogress,asgoing 0# on.William_Hersey_ԀDavis,BeginnersGrammarofthe $  GreekNewTestament(Harper&BrothersPub.,NewYork, %|! 1923),p.25. (#(# 0  0(#(#0` (#(#0 ` (#` (#0 (# (# (7)  CompareHeb.10:26, Forifwe goonsinning willfully...  2'#!  Theuseofthepresentparticiple...showsthatthesinisnotoneoferrororinadvertence;notasinofmomentaryexcitement...;butratherthatitisasinofhabit;asinthat )f&$ iswillinglyanddeliberatelypersistedin;asinthatiscommittedwithahighhandandinopenviolationandcontemptofGodslaw...R._Milligan_,Epistletothe ,)' Hebrews(GospelLightPub._Co_.,Delight,AR)-*((#(# N14 hp x (#, XN  0 4 0` 4(#4(# 4 iii) ` isperverted!_Tit_Ԁ3:11=perfecttense` (#` (# Q14` hp x (#4 XQ0  0(#(# ThetenseinGreekcalledperfectisreallyapresentperfect.Theperfectpresentstheactionoftheverbinacompletedstateorcondition.Whentheactionwascompletedtheperfecttensedoesnottell. Itisstillcompleteatthe  timeoftheuseofthetensebythespeakerorwriter. Theperfectexpresses  thecontinuanceofcompletedaction.Itisthenacombinationof_punctiliar_Ԁactionanddurativeaction.Davis,op.cit.,p.152.[boldmine,_srf_]Z (#(# N14 hp x (#, XN0  04(#(#0` 4(#4(# 4 iv) `  holding (presentparticiple)toaformofgodliness,althoughthey have  " denied (middleperfectparticiple)itspower ` (#` (# Q1` hp x (#4 XQ0  0` (#(#  c) ` Notethatthemansubjecttodisciplinein_Mt_.18wastobeadmonished  b  threetimes,thepeoplein_Thessalonica_Ԁwereadmonishedtwice(1Th.  H  4:112;5:14...2Th.3:14),andthefactiousmaninCretewastobewarnedtwice(_Tit_.3:1011). Timetorepentisproper(_Rev_.2:21),but   failuretodosowillbeevidentbycontinuanceinevildeeds.Rev.9:20,21;   16:9;_Mt_.3:810.EventheLords timehadanend,Rev.2:2123.Iftoo j  muchtimeelapses, ` (#` (# K14 hp x (#,` XK  0 4 0` 4(#4(#0 ` (#` (# ` _i_) Thesoulmaygrowsocoldnothingwilltouchthem(Heb.6:46). (# (#   0 4 0` 4(#4(#0 ` (#` (# ` ii) Theimpenitentmayhavelostalldesireforassociationwith b Christians,andthewithdrawingbeineffective(2Th.3:14).  (# (#   0 4 0` 4(#4(#0 ` (#` (# ` iii) Irreparabledamagemayhaveoccurredtoothersouls(1Co.5:6). (# (# Q1` hp x (#4 XQ0  0` (#(#  d) ` Eachcasewillhavetobeconsideredindividually,allthefactsweighed, ` andreasonablejudgmentmadebyspiritualmen(1Co.5:12;6:5). ` (#` (# 3chur    $ X,` X$       H44` hp x (#XH      0   6)  Isntthis judging,whichiscondemned,_Mt_.7?  (#(#  Schur    $ X, X$      ! (#X!      H1` hp x (#(#H0  0` (#(#  a) ` _Mt_.7isnotcondemning judgingaltogether,butratherhypercritical( the \ speckinyourbrotherseye)andhypocritical( Youhypocrite,first8)judging.Interestingthatthosewhosayweshouldnotjudgeothersjudgeyouforjudging! ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  _b_) ` Wemustanddorenderjudgment,e.g.v.15.Paul,infact,callswhatwe X mustdorelativetotheimpenitent, judging,1Co.5:12. ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  c) ` Ourjudgmentmustbeimpartialandfair.Ex.23:13;_Lev_.19:3537;_Dt_.  " 1:16,17;16:1820;_Jn_.7:24;1Tim.5:21;Jam.2:1. ` (#` (# 9Uchur    $ X,` X$       H44` hp x (#XH      0   7)  Whataboutsomeonewho quitcomingtochurch"ishetobewithdrawn <$  from? (%! (#(#  'Zis    $ X, X$      ! (#X!      H1` hp x (#(#H0  0` (#(#  a) ` Onemight quitcomingtochurchbecauseheisunabletocome x&"! (bedfast).Obviously,thisisnotwhatisunderconsideration,butitdoespointtothefactthatWHYonequitsassemblingmustbeconsidered. ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  _b_) ` TheHebrewsquitassemblingbecauseofUNBELIEF,Heb.10:2325.See ) &$ contextofentireletter,e.g.,3:1213;6:412;10:3539. Forsakingtheassemblingwasthesymptom,UNBELIEFthedisease.Whenon quits Z+'& goingtochurchbecausehenolongerBELIEVESthatJesusistherisenSaviorandheneedsHim,nolongerLOVEStheLordsoastokeepHis (-)( commandments,nolongerFEARSHimandtheconsequencesofdisobeyingHim,norwishestoHONORHiminthememorialofhisdeath,nolongerRESPECTSTHECOVENANTHeshedHisbloodtoratify,doesnotCAREabouttheLordspeople,norwishtoSUPPORTHISCAUSE"isTHATpersonasubjectofpunitivediscipline??THATStheissue! ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  c) ` Forsakingtheassembliesisnotspecifiedinthelistsinthepassageso f punitivediscipline,butneitherismurder.Either:L ` (#` (# H.4 hp x (#,` XH0  0` (#(#0 ` (#` (# ` _i_) PunitivedisciplineisNOTtobeexercisedagainstmurderersand   unbelieversbecausethesearenotspecificallymentioned,or,~  (# (# 0  0` (#(#0 ` (#` (# ` ii) PunitivedisciplineIStobeexercisedagainstbothmurderersand  F  unbelieversbecause  (# (# N14` hp x (#4 XN0  0(#(#0` (#(#0 ` (#` (#0 (# (# (1)  Theyareincludedinthespecificsmentioned,e.g., loversof v  self, loversofmoney, loversofpleasuremorethanloversofGod,or, (#(# 0  0(#(#0` (#(#0 ` (#` (#0 (# (# (2)  Thesepassageswerenotintendedtoformacomprehensive  listofthespecificgroundsofpunitivediscipline,butareillustrativeofageneralclass,anyactofwhich,thoughnotspecificallymentioned,isgroundsfordiscipline. (#(# N1` hp x (#, XN0  0` (#(#  d) ` NotethatiftheHebrewspersistedinforsakingtheassembliesthrough  unbelieftheyweresaidtobe sinningwillfully(Heb.10:26).Notealsothe p descriptionoftheminv.29.Rememberthatthesepeoplewerenotturningtoatheism,idolatry,rampantimmorality,ortohostileaggressionagainstthechurch.TheywereabandoningChristinfaithandpractice. ` (#` (# 0  0` (#(#  e) ` Heb.12:15,16warnsaboutan immoralorGODLESS( profaneKJV, n NKJV)personlike_Esau_,whosoldhisownbirthrightforasinglemeal._Esau_Ԁwas amansman.Hewas askillfulhunter,amanofthefieldand hadatasteforgame(_Gen_.25:27,28).Buthehadterriblypoorvalues"waswillingtosacrificethepromisesofGodassociatedwithhis birthrightfora singlemeal.Afterall,hesaid, Behold,Iamabouttodie;soofwhatusethenisthebirthrighttome?(_Gen_.25:32).Hethus showedhimselftobe XXQ dmd_bebhlov_XQX  mddԀ(Hebrews12:16),aprofaneman,whocared